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- In article <Cn4uqn.6vu@news.Hawaii.Edu>, you@somehost.somedomain (Your Name Here) says:
- >
- >From: you@somehost.somedomain (Your Name Here)
- >Newsgroups: alt.winsock
- >Subject: Help on WAIS clients..
- >Organization: Your Organization
- >Reply-To: ehagen@Hawaii.edu
- >X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.90.4
- >
- >
- >I posted this problem before, but I got no response, so I will try one more
- >time. Perhaps someone can help me with a small problem I seem to be having.
- >
- >At work I am running Trumpet Winsock in norton desktop for window, windows ver
- >3.1. I have been checking out two different types of windows wais clients and
- >I have developed a problem with both.
- >
- >When I try to pull over a .src file I get a 'Invalid property value' error,
- >and then after pressing OK, the entire application crashes on me. I cannot
- >see to figure out what is wrong.
- >
- >I looked through my win, ndw, and system .ini files and have nothing pointing
- >towards a .src file. And the exe's are normal archives under NDW.
- >
- >Now, this may sound like a simple stubid question, but I will dammed if I can
- >figure out the cause of the problem. It works on another system, so I know
- >the programs work. Though reinstalling windows and NDW are out of the question,
- >on both systems I have updated many of the drivers etc, I would do a directory
- >copy though the machines are not at the same location.
- >
- >
- >Anyone know how to fix this? At least any ideas where to look?
- >
- >Thanks in advance.
- >
- >Eric
-
- I haven't been able to get useful information out of a WAIS client yet, but
- you might try posting your question to comp.infosystems.wais. Folks on
- that group would at least know the software.
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Fri Mar 25 21:42:18 1994
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- Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 21:42:18 GMT
- From: tkoehler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Koehler)
- Message-Id: <1994Mar25.214218.2047@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
- Sender: ses
- Subject: Winsock Through Firewall
-
- I currently have access to telnet and ftp through proxy telnet
- and proxy ftp. We do not have telnet and ftp software on our
- individual workstations but need to connect to another machine on
- our Novell lan which has proxy ftp and telnet access to the
- Internet. My question is: Is it possible to run winsock applications
- through the proxy machine from my desktop? What drivers need to be
- loaded? etc... Any information would be welcomed.
- Feel free to mail me directly at tkoehler@us.teltech.com ... Thanks.
- --
- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
- Tom Koehler
- tkoehler@nyx.cs.du.edu
- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:23:29 UNDEFINED
- From: hoyt@interaccess.com (Hoyt Hudson)
- Message-Id: <hoyt.33.060DA5C2@interaccess.com>
- Organization: InterAccess,Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider
- Sender: ses
- References: <MARDER.189.2D8EC875@agri.huji.ac.il>, <2mtab7$kjp@nova.np.ac.sg>, <2mvgfh$r3m@walton.maths.tcd.ie>
- Subject: Re: Looking for lpd printer daemon for OS/2
-
- In article <2mvgfh$r3m@walton.maths.tcd.ie> sboyle@maths.tcd.ie (Simon Boyle) writes:
-
- >Is there such a thing as a (unix compatible) lpd daemon for OS/2?
- >Would a DOS one work?
-
- We use the lpd that came with the IBM TCP/IP base kit for OS\2. It works fine
- and doesn't work the system very hard (you can even play DOOM while you spool
- print jobs).
-
-
-
-
- Hoyt
-
- Hoyt Hudson **************** InterAccess ********************
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- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 03:02:41 1994
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- Date: 26 Mar 1994 03:02:41 GMT
- From: davidson@netaxs.com (Steven Davidson)
- Message-Id: <2n08kh$k2@netaxs.com>
- Organization: Netaxs BBS and shell accounts!
- Sender: ses
- Subject: Inet Tour Guide & WinMosaic
-
-
- I've been running WinMosaic with the Trumpet Winsock with absolutely no
- difficulty, but I had not registered Trumpet and I was able to pick up the
- Internet Tour Guide for $17.50 at Tower Books. I figured I would have a
- legal winsock and some other clients as well. (I've been running most
- 'net clients other than Mosaic on my academic Vax or private unix box account
- with me just playing terminal since I have to pay extra for my SLIP
- connection).
-
- Well, I can't get WinMosaic to work with the Chameleon winsock. Mosaic
- comes up and immediately complains that it doesn't have winsock or socket
- services or whatever the error message is. However, I can use the
- Chameleon ping and ftp that come with the package with no problem.
- Similarly, I can drop the SLIP connection with the Chameleon winsock, exit
- it and start the trumpet winsock and then Mosaic will run just fine.
- Chameleon's ping and ftp work just fine too with Trumpet.
-
- Any thoughts?
-
- Regards.//Steve
- --
- Steven J. Davidson, MD, MBA, FACEP | 215.843.3001 voice | 215.843.3029 fax
- Div. of EMS, 3426 Conrad Street, Suite 5, Philadelphia PA 19129-1651
- davidson@ccc.medcolpa.edu | davidson@netaxs.com | 71535.204@compuserve.com
- Opinions are _all_ mine. I'm often wrong, but never in doubt.
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 03:57:46 1994
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- Date: 26 Mar 1994 03:57:46 GMT
- From: david@bu.edu (David Gagnon)
- Message-Id: <2n0brq$3ft@news.bu.edu>
- Organization: Boston University
- Sender: ses
- References: <2mv3n2$17q@usenet.rpi.edu>
- Reply-To: david@med-buspheb.bu.edu
- Subject: Re: PC-NFS 5.0/WinMosaic - DNS support w/resolv.cnf
-
- floydb@rpi.edu wrote:
- : To get DNS working under PC-NFS 5.0:
-
- : ***********************************************************************
- : *** ***
- : *** Copy /etc/resolv.conf, from Unix, to c:\nfs\resolv.cnf, to a PC ***
- : *** ***
- : *** Reboot your PC ***
- : ***********************************************************************
-
- : This will allow WinMosaic to run under PC-NFS without and NIS server to
- : DNS converter.
-
- : Please post problems and suggestions as you find them.
-
-
- I have just converted my system with PC-NFS, and I have found that
- wsarchie works with this configuration, but the wintalk program does not.
- BTW, Mosaic works as well.
-
- Thanks for the info.
- >David<
- --
- David R. Gagnon, MD MPH david@med-buspheb.bu.edu
- Boston University School of Public Health (617) 638-4457 [voice]
- Boston, Massachusetts (617) 638-4458 [fax]
- "ecrasez l'infamie"
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 05:54:03 1994
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- Date: 26 Mar 1994 05:54:03 GMT
- From: byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd)
- Message-Id: <2n0ilr$khl@spectre.star.harc.edu>
- Organization: Houston Advanced Research Center
- Sender: ses
- References: <GREG_KAISEN.11.000A0E85@QM.YALE.EDU>
- Reply-To: byrd@harc.edu
- Subject: Re: Access to Appletalk printers
-
- In article <GREG_KAISEN.11.000A0E85@QM.YALE.EDU> GREG_KAISEN@QM.YALE.EDU
- (Greg Kaisen) writes:
- > Help, does anyone know an "easy" way to provide access to AppleTalk
- > connected printers for users of PC's on ethernet (using the packet
- driven
- > WInsock) Anyway to get LPR to work?
- >
- > All creative suggestions appreciated.
- >
-
- Any Unix boxes around? In common access to both PC's and
- Apples? If yes, you can duplicate a two-step process we
- setup for transparent print from PC to appletalk printer:
-
- 1) Get CAP60 (Columbia AppleTalk Protocol; check archie)
- running and configured on the common unix
- box. You should be able to print from unix using a
- command like:
- #unix> lpr -PApple_Printer_Name file_name
-
- 2) Next, grab WinLPR from CICA (ftp.cica.indiana.edu) in the
- winsock directory (or any other LPR spooler). This one
- seems easy to use, transparent, and easy to maintain.
- (WARNING: If the apple printer is PostScript, be sure to use the
- CTRL-D remover software that comes with it. Seems windoze
- drivers want to send a CTRL-D at the beginning of a postscript.
- Brilliant!)
-
- The unix side has to have a BSD (Berkely) spooler running, so
- you can type "lpr" instead of "lp".
-
- Good Luck!
-
- (Was that creative enough?)
-
- --
- Marc J. Byrd - byrd@rice.edu | Marc J. Byrd - byrd@harc.edu
- Rice University | Houston Advanced Research Center
- Dept of Elec & Comp Engr | 4800 Research Forest Drive
- Confocal Hologram Reconstruction | The Woodlands, TX 77381
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 07:11:54 1994
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- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 01:47:49
- From: ronb@orange.cc.utexas.edu (Ron Blancarte)
- Message-Id: <ronb.6.0001CC19@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>
- Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
- Sender: ses
- Subject: hostname software
-
- There was something that I read here that sid that there is software that will
- assign a host name to the ip address that is assigned to you when you run
- winsock. I would like to know where it is and what the name of the file(s)
- is/are. Thanks
-
- Ron
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 10:51:28 1994
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- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 10:51:28 GMT
- From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
- Message-Id: <1994Mar26.105128.3357@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
- Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
- Sender: ses
- References: <9403240155.AA21219@mailserv-B.ftp.com>
- Subject: Re: LanWorkPlace Winsock Patches DON'T WORK!
-
- Hello,
-
- Larry Backman <backman@FTP.COM> writes:
-
- > >> I managed to locate the LAN Workplace / Workgroup patches LWP168.EXE and
- > >> LWP41N.EXE on ftp.novell.com (under somethihhing like epub/netwire/novlib).
- > >>
- > >> I've downloaded these files and followed the installation instructions and
- > >> guess what? Nothing happened. Lan WorkPalce still operates fine, but
- > >> Winsock apps are still dead in the water. Mosaic just sits there instead of
- > >> trying to open the home page.
- > >>
- > >> Does anybody have any idea what i could be doing wrong?
- > >>
- > >> I'm also trying to get Trumpet Winsock to operate over ODI drivers. that
- > >> also does not work. in fact, the only reason I even wasted tim elooking for
- > >> the LWP updates is because I couldn't get trumpet to work. AAARRRRRGH!
- > >>
- > >> Novell, are you out there?
-
-
- >maybe not but their ace-bug hunter is.
-
- >You need to run the <novasync.exe> program that comes w/ the Winsock patch.
- >That provides the "hidden" task needed by winsock.
-
- >I've been told by people who know more than I about LWP that novasync
- >is supposed to get fired off by winsock.dll automatically. I've never
- >seen that happen, but me, I'm just an engineer....
-
- :-)
-
- Well, I'm just a user. I never heard anything about novasync, and I have
- the Novell winsock running. It is indeed in my net/bin directory, which
- is in my path, so I assume that it is, if necessary, loaded by winsock.
- So one could claim that there exist environments for which those people's
- statement is correct :-)
-
- But anyway, the Novell Winsock is unfortunately far from perfect.
- While WinVN and Trumpet run flawless, Cello keeps crashing after
- some time, as does Mosaic (though less frequent). Seems to me they still
- have to iron some stuff out...
-
- BTW - if you _only_ want to run Trumpet, try Trumpet's Lan Workplace
- Version. Then you won't need winsock anyway.
-
- But keep an eye on WinVN - it's getting better from release to release,
- and starts to be a real alternative for Trumpet.
-
- Regards
-
- Christoph Weber-Fahr
-
-
- --
- Christoph Weber-Fahr | E-Mail: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
- Universitaet Kaiserslautern, KIT | S-Mail: Postfach 3049
- Tel. 0631/205-3391 | D-67653 Kaiserslautern
- -------------------------- My personal opinion only ---------------------
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 04:23:53 1994
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- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 04:23:53 GMT
- From: hbae@cwis.unomaha.edu (Hansang Bae)
- Message-Id: <hbae.764655833@cwis>
- Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
- Sender: ses
- References: <Cn7psG.E7F@bbc.co.uk>
- Subject: Re: Xwindows for pc?
-
- boyer@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk (John Boyer) writes:
- >Two questions.
- >First what do I need to set up an xwindows terminal from a pc?
- >What freebie progs are there around?
-
-
- I'm not sure if there are any freebies around. You can archie for
- xwindemo. You need Windows (obviously), winsock, FAST pc and that's
- about it. Works fairly well. When we buy the commercial version, I can
- tell you more!
-
-
- Hansang Bae --------------------------------------------------------
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- Date: 25 Mar 1994 09:32:53 GMT
- From: raph@aim.ch (Raphael JEAN)
- Message-Id: <2mub45$73l@aim_hp1.aim.ch>
- Organization: AIM, Applied Information Management SA, Geneva, Switzerland
- Sender: ses
- References: <Cn3BKC.ECn@wetware.com>
- Subject: Re: DIR command hangs in DOS box under Win3.1
-
- In article <Cn3BKC.ECn@wetware.com>, cse@wetware.com (Scott Ellard) says:
- >
- >I'm using FTP Software's version 2.2. When doing a dir
- >command on a networked drive in a DOS box under Windows 3.1,
- >the system hangs.
-
- I'm running WFW3.11 and Novell Lan Workplace with NFS and I have exactly
- the same problem ! Access to the network drives hang the system in a DOS
- box but Windows apllications access them without problems.
-
- We have several PCs here with the same configuration but different network
- boards and this problem only occurs on my box :-(
-
- I have a NE2000-compatible board.
-
- Hope to find the problem one day...
-
- Raph
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- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 07:46:27 GMT
- From: JPHammonds@anl.gov (John P. Hammonds)
- Message-Id: <JPHammonds.48.0001C646@anl.gov>
- Organization: Argonne Natl Lab Intense Pulsed Neutron Source
- Sender: ses
- References: <2mf42u$7h0@news.kth.se>
- Subject: Re: Xwindemo on VAX/VMS
-
- In article <2mf42u$7h0@news.kth.se> niklas@heat.kth.se (Niklas Agren) writes:
- >From: niklas@heat.kth.se (Niklas Agren)
- >Subject: Xwindemo on VAX/VMS
- >Date: 19 Mar 1994 15:00:46 GMT
-
- >Hello.
- >I just deflated xwindemo. It works well to a UNIX.
- >I Need to use a VAX/VMS with Decwindows/MOTIF as
- >client as well. I tried, but everything fails. In the
- >xwin.hlp there *IS* an example of xstart.com to use
- >on a VMS box, so I suppose it should work. Anyone out there managed
- >to get it running? Please post any tips.
- >/Niklas
- > ____________________________________________________________________________
- >|Niklas Agren | Voice: Office: +46-8-7908220 |
- >|Royal Institute of Technology | Home: +46-8-855951 |
- >|Dept. of Chemical Engineering & Techn./ | Email: niklas@heat.kth.se |
- >|Energy Processes | MIME & BinHex & UU spoken |
- >|Stockholm, Sweden | |
- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- I have got it to work over Trumpet winsock. Here is my Com file
-
- $ thisUSER = F$EDIT( F$GETJPI("","USERNAME"), "COLLAPSE")
- $ Thisnode = F$GetSYI("NODENAME")
- $! ThisUSER = F$USER()
- $set display/create/node='p1'/trans=tcpip
- $ CREATE/TERMINAL/DETACH/WINDOW_ATTR=(TITLE="''THISNODE'::''THISUSER'",-
- icon_name = "''THISnode'::''THISuser'")
-
-
- Set the demo to rexec to the node with the command @comfile_name your_nodes_ip
- filling in comfile_name and your_nodes_ip with the appropriate values.
-
-
-
-
- ----------------------------------------
- John P. Hammonds
- Intense Pulsed Neutron Source
- Argonne National Laboratory
- Hammonds@anlpns.pns.anl.gov
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- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 07:06:16 GMT
- From: pct@LYRA.Stanford.EDU (Peter C. Tam)
- Message-Id: <pct.6.764665576@LYRA.Stanford.EDU>
- Organization: Stanford University
- Sender: ses
- Subject: My IP address thru WinSock w/o gethostname() & gethostbyname()
-
- Hi,
-
- I want to get my ip address from WinSock. I know gethostname() to obtain
- my host name, but then I have to gethostbyname() to get the ip address!
- Is there a faster way out of this!
-
- Especially if I don't have Domain Name Resolver on my network & just want
- my ip address assigned manually !
-
- THANKS FOR ANY HELP!
-
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- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_
- (x)/ (x) (x)/ (x) (x)/ (x) (x)/ (x) (x)/ (x) (x)/ (x)
-
-